MTP Load Time

[Fibtrader]

Hello everyone

I have contacted Steve and he is working on the problem, but I would like to check with anyone else that might be experiencing long load times for their charts when using the MTPdata.eld module on their real time TS 8 charts. I have 12 charts loaded and it takes about 40-50 minutes to load. Listed below is some info about my system:

DSL: max high speed available from Qwest.
Computer: HP Pavillion laptop, 2 gigs memory, 64 bit Athalon 4000 CPU, 5600 rpm HD. Win XP Pro with all updates.

I think the problem might be the 64 bit CPU. Most likely TS 8 cannot handle it properly or the problem is the coding in the MTPdata.eld module. the 32 bit CPU seem to have no problem.

Thanks

[Steve Griffiths]

Hi,

I did not realise that you had a 64-bit PC. I am not sure of the effect this will have with TS8, you will have to ask them.............

But as a rule I tell everybody that it is best to stick with 32-bit PC's. 64-bit is new and un-tested technology and as such not reliable. In my experience, the vast majority of programs cannot run well (or correctly) on 64-bit technology. Myslef, I would not look to 64-bit PC's (or operating systems) for another year or so. They are just too much hasstle and trouble.

Steve

[Fibtrader]

Hi,

I did not realise that you had a 64-bit PC. I am not sure of the effect this will have with TS8, you will have to ask them.............

But as a rule I tell everybody that it is best to stick with 32-bit PC's. 64-bit is new and un-tested technology and as such not reliable. In my experience, the vast majority of programs cannot run well (or correctly) on 64-bit technology. Myslef, I would not look to 64-bit PC's (or operating systems) for another year or so. They are just too much hasstle and trouble.

Steve

Hi Steve

Have to disagree here. In the US most all of the PC's being sold have 64 bit chips (some dual core) Made by AMD or Intel. It would be a waste of money to purchase a 32 bit system. All of my 32 bit software runs perfect on the 64 bit chip. I seem to be having a problem with only the MTPData.eld module. The tradesetup and reversal eld's run perfectly. If there was a problem with TS 8 all of the MTP modules would not run correctly. Today it took over 60 minutes to load the EC and ER2, a total of 10 charts. The CPU was maxed out at 100%, locking the computer until the calculations were finished.

Bob

[billm]

Hi there,

I too had problems running TS8 & MTPEod on a 64bit HP workstation. My solution was to buy a 32 bit xw8200 running 32 bit XP. Based on experience I agree with Steve, MTP Eod runs like a champ on it, though TS8 still performs like a pig! I note your CPU max'd out locking the box, etc. Mine is 2 Xeons with 4G ram, etc. and TS8 is unuseable when emini markets go fast. In a nutshell, I have found TS8 to live down to its 1980's reputation as 'vaporware'.

Regards, BillM

[mrkam]

I just built a dual-core pentium machine for my trading. Pretty much, the ONLY processesors out there are billed as "64 bit compatible", meaning they will run both 32 bit AND 64 bit software. It is virtually impossible to get a quote "32 bit" ONLY machine. I run XPPro, 32 bit. MTP EOD and RT Esignal run great.

The software industry is moving towards 64bit. period. Windows is still 32 bit, but will have a 64 bit version soon. Software will avalanche to 64 bit soon after and there is no way around it.

I agree with above, I think it is a TS issue, but am speaking out my "pips" since I don't run it. I just know that:
1. I have 64 bit hardware (that runs 32 bit as well.)
2. Current Windows XP Pro.
3. MTP EOD runs great.
4. MTP RT for esignal runs great.

like I said, only about 2 cents worth!!

[Fibtrader]

Thanks everyone for your input :)

I run a lot of programs in TS 8 using my HP 64 bit system with no problems. I still think it is a small coding problem with the MTPData module when running under the 64 bit chip. The other MTP modules run very well under the 64 bit chip. Any advice that might help would be appreciated.

Thanks

[northwesttrader]

Dear Fibtrader,

Just get up forty minutes earlier. (Call me when you get home).

Rich

[Steve Griffiths]

Hi Guys,

Can you confirm that it is just the Data.eld that slows things down ? I will ask our TS8 programmer, but this is just a simple eld written in Easy Language, so we have not done anything fancy or involved here, just simple Easy language code..............

Thanks

Steve

[Fibtrader]

Hi Steve

Just the Data.eld for me. One possibility, it might be inteperting the "Defined Data File" for the ascii charts incorrectly.

Thanks

Bob

[Steve Griffiths]

Hi Bob,

Thanks, yes this is a mystery. As some other people have mentioned, Easy language is quite old now, so there may be some conflicts with the new 64-bit technology.

So I am not sure what we can do here, because if we program in TS8 then we have to use Easy language..........

Just a pity that any new technology (64-bit) does not appear to be fully backward compatable. This combined with an old coding language (Easy Language) and it looks like problems can occur.

I will talk to our TS8 programmer again and see what he suggests, but we (MTPredictor) are just stuck in the middle here. If any other users have any suggestions or have a possible solution, then please drop me an email.

As a PS, This one eld is working perfectly with all our other users (most who have 32-bit PC's)

Thanks

Steve

[Fibtrader]

Thanks Steve

Maybe TS support might have an answer. They should be working on a 64 bit platform.
If there are any eSignal users having the same problem with 64 bit cpu's it would really help if they let you know if there are any problems. Either way its a great program!

Bob